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  • ashshef
    09-24 05:57 PM
    This is not the correct understanding. I know this myth is propogated millions of times in millions of board and so now this myth has become "truth" for millions. But that is not the correct way USCIS does things.

    Country specific limit - 9% does NOT have any realtion to "assigning numbers". it is just meant to "approve 485 - mail you a real physical green card".

    In ROW cataegory other countries are also bound with this 9 (7 + 2) % limit for Visa granting. For an example - For Pakistan USCIS will never grant more than 9% visa per year no matter how many applications from Pakistan have been assigned a valid visa number. Same will go true for Britain or any "other" country.

    In reality How USCIS divide 28.6% among countires - That is unknown mystery and nobody surely know that. And that is why I had to assume "equal shares - 5 part" in my analysis assuming USCIS works fairly but we all know that is a bullshit too :)

    I completely agree with your last 2 lines. But I don't agree with the even dividing of the number into 5 categories of I,P,C,M,ROW.
    Let's take an example. Suppose for some odd coincidence....the first 8000 odd EB3 apps that USCIS processes starting Oct 1.....none are from I,P,C,M. Suppose First 2500 are from Uk, next 2500 from France, next 2500 Germany and the next 508 from Pakistan. Now the number for ROW at this point would be 8008. Now they get another app from UK next. Will they refuse to process that app as the ROW figure had reached? Then they will still process more than 2500 for I,P,C,M. Won't that be unfair to UK applicants.

    As I have said a couple of times now, and so have a few others - ROW cannot be capped at X/5. Due to the high demand from I,P,C,M....it likely gets a MINIMUM of (100 - (7 X 4)) X EB3 cap.





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  • EB2DEC152005
    08-12 02:19 PM
    Hi

    I saw some posts from user appas123, I need some help filling out 7001 form. If you do not mind please call me on my cell 2482275390. It would be greatly appreciated.

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  • rodnyb
    04-02 12:50 AM
    EB3 Porting could use up to 8K though, and new filing could be 2K
    and EB2 I/C pre-07/2007 still have about 34K at the beginning of oct/2010
    So it is even at most...

    There are lots of uncertain
    1. EB1 is now the biggest uncertainty
    2. EB2 ROW
    3. Porting
    But EB1 and Eb2 ROW, EB2 I/c new fling (ppl who missed 07/2007 w/ PD before 07/2007) have to file in May to get it approved by Sept as processing time is 4 month.
    So After May, from June to August, it is all spill over game for EB2 I/C
    That is why i guess Charles is saying the trend is now, and will start use the numbers in May

    If 44k is the available number for EB2 I & C then the PD will move upto Jun 2008 with out any doubt. Even with the porting of EB3 to EB2 is accounted for.


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  • dontcareanymore
    01-09 04:43 PM
    I am surprised to see this thread active this long. Earlier I have with help of Saralayar and other members have bring this point to attention. But at that time no one was supporting Idea.

    I see increasing support for the Idea as GC journey become longer and longer.

    Earlier I have pointed following points that I want to bring to remind if we want to get real support for this idea of early CITIZENSHIP AFTER GREEN CARD

    (1) I-140 and I-485 must be approved.

    (@) Time should be considered only after getting GC

    (3) For getting closer for political support our proposal should be close to Existing laws for FAMILY BASED and MARRIAGE BASED CITIZENSHIPS

    So we should argur that if YOU HAVE MASTER AND ABOVE IN STEM FILEDS YOu can get CITIZEN SHIP 5 yrs from date of Approval of I-140 ( which make it closer to fmaily based) and THREE YEARS from Date of Approval of I-485 (closer to marriage based citizens). You can get earlier of two . But when you get Citizenship your I-485 must be approved for ATLEAST 1 year.

    The above requirements can get closer to Marriage and family based and also help 90% of IV members.

    Adding the clause for the EDUCATIONAL THING might be able to get more political support also

    Thanks

    Most of the delay (after the labor) is in I485. Some people wait more than others and any timer that starts AFTER approval of I485 is not useful to those who already wait longer term on I485. Moreover it is I485 process that is most screwed up for the lack of better word. People with PD 2006 got the GC last year while people from 2002 are waiting in the SAME category , from the same country.

    REQUIREMENT of masters degree may be a convincing factor in your opinion , but that excludes certain members of the group.


    The 485 approval is just an adjustment of status. Technically approval of I140 is when you are approved to be a resident (Assuming no criminal record etc).



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  • SunnySurya
    11-03 04:00 PM
    I agree with you this thread should be closed. Please see my original message. I accomplished, which I set to accomplish. In the face of everyone who doubted or questioned my committment.

    No point in lingering on this issue. We have some bigger fish to fry now.

    Guys,

    I sincerely want this thread to be closed. This is killing our unity to fight common cause.





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  • eb2_immigrant
    08-24 02:46 PM
    FYI...I heard from some of my friends that Vonage is good as long as you are its customer. Once you call CS and tell them you are leaving...they play all sorts of dirty tricks.

    What you heard is probably true, I was a customer long time back and wanted to disconnect, on top of stern response and attitude, they charged me for the whole month instead of prorating it .
    I like the new plan , may be I might buy it but if vonage has done this there will tons of other companies who will slash the prices or atleast match vonage.
    The world wide calling if great if you are calling your home country everyday or the phone card companies are costing you more than $25/month(air tel and others). Besides $25/per month these days is ridiculous(before the free worldwide calling plan). You can get a GOOD VOIP service for $10 or even under that these days. Just good "voip service providers"
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  • qvadis
    08-21 05:12 PM
    In my opinion it is very naive to think that USCIS/DOL just realized that they had 'misinterpreted' the law. They had made it very clear how they allocated 'available' visa numbers after AC-21 was introduced, and I am sure they consulted with the law-makers.

    It's almost funny to read that they consulted with today congress. How would they now of the intentions of the congress in 2000?

    According to Ron's post, 70% are from India and China, and Mexico is also reaching the ceiling. They realized that the only way to shift those numbers is to give more visas to India and China. The ambiguity of the law for the preference of vertical vs. horizontal spill-over allowed them to do that.





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  • SunJoshi
    12-31 01:25 PM
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    Please come forward to help out.



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  • delhirocks
    06-29 05:12 PM
    Here is why it will not happen on the first 3 or 4 days atleast.

    This is not like H1B, which was hyped around for 2 months and forced every one to file on Apr 1st. More over it has a cap of 65k on it.

    The most imp thing is there must be some rationale or logic (other than for fees etc) behind how they could make every category current. Some of you might know that DOS gives USCIS visa numbers quarterly. It means that the final quarter quota has not opened yet. The final quarter quota for EB1/2/3 is around 22000 (approx 7500X3). The EB5 leftovers ( conservatively 9000 , see 2006 stats) will also be added to the EB1 and possibly down to EB2/3 . The total number of visas that will be available to USCIS on Jul 2nd (first fiscal day of final quarter)is 31-33,000. The per country limits are relaxed in the final quarter so that unused go to the over subscribed countries.

    DOS has to be utterly dumb, insane and ludacris to make every category current, if these 33K are the only numbers available. If DOS and USCIS has statistics for the first 3 quarters ( first 2 quarters + 2 months of 3rd quarter) telling that all the visa numbers released were in the previous quarters were consumed 100%, they would not make it current. That kinda tells us that the numbers allocated in the first 3 quarters were severely under utilized. How severely? No one knows as DOS does not do per quarter statistics.

    More over, If its written into law that DOS can only issue VB once per month, and cannot update it during the month, they cannot do a damn thing. If it's not, it comes down to the implementation and interpretation of the agency. USCIS and DOS can release an updated bulletin if they get an over whelming filings for EB 485. Again, there is not enough time for USCIS/DOS to prepare like they did for H1, because the rumor has been out for 4 or 5 days. It might happen in the 2nd week or so if its not written into law.


    It is not written in any law, infact the guidelines say that DOS can issue mid-month update





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  • l1fraud
    06-08 10:15 PM
    Thanks ... normal options in USCIS asks you to call ICE.gov ... BUT ICE.gov doesn't seem to have a local office.. please let me know if anyone out there has gone this route and any update regarding what all documents we need to produce to prove our case. Since its a Billion dollar company they are bound to fight the case (hopefully). Any information regarding the same is appretiate.



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  • h1techSlave
    01-07 02:21 PM
    One way "in which we can get more people involved on IV" is to remove some of the barriers to such participation. And the infamous red/green thingie comes to my mind.

    Any updates on when IV is going to get rid of the red/green dot thingie?

    Counting time after I140 approval towards citizenship proposal is already on our table for things to consider as a campaign. For Campaigns like this, we will need massive support than what we currently have. Even recent greencard holders can benefit from it.
    So the first step before we undertake any big project is to get more membership base.

    So let us first figure out ways in which we can get more people involved on IV. Without massive participation no campaign, letter/lobby/phonecall etc will work. We need to really go out of our way and spread the word around so that everyone that is stuck in this immigration mess can join this movement.





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  • gccovet
    11-19 04:18 PM
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  • funny
    09-09 06:34 PM
    Posting it in this thread, as this is related to HR5882.

    Make Immigration Work for Working Immigrants

    http://townhall.com/Columnists/CesarConda/2008/09/09/make_immigration_work_for_working_immigrants

    Employment-based immigrants contribute greatly to America, although you would not know it from the way current U.S. policy treats them. Due to low quotas, a typical skilled immigrant sponsored by an American company now waits 6 to 10 years for a green card (permanent residence). The House Judiciary Committee marks up legislation this week to change that, representing likely the only measure Congress may take in the remaining weeks to aid innovation, the economy and the competitiveness of U.S. companies.

    H.R. 5882, authored by Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-CA) and Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI), would reduce wait times for green cards and help retain talented people in the United States. It would do this by providing green cards that had been allotted in previous years but went unused, primarily due to bureaucratic obstacles.

    �A developed country�s competitiveness now comes primarily from its capacity to innovate � the ability to create the new products and services that people want,� according to Curtis Carlson of the Silicon Valley research firm SRI International. Skilled immigrants are a vital source of America�s capacity to innovate.

    The National Venture Capital Association reports that 1 in 4 publicly-trade companies that began with venture capital since 1990 had at least one immigrant founder. While the vast majority of employees at U.S. firms are Americans, when U.S. employers recruit on college campuses they find foreign nationals represent a high proportion of the graduates in key fields. In 2006, 73% of new electrical engineering Ph.D.s in the U.S. were granted to international students, according to the National Science Foundation, while in 2005, foreign nationals received 55 percent of electrical engineering master�s degrees and 42 percent of computer science master�s degrees.

    H-1B temporary visas, which have been exhausted each of the past 5 fiscal years, only allow individuals to stay on a temporary basis, so an employment-based green card is necessary to stay here permanently. The separate quota for green cards for skilled immigrants is set at 140,000 a year (including dependents of the skilled immigrant). That quota has also been insufficient to meet demand, creating waits of 6 to 10 years for a green card.

    The great uncertainty these waits create lead some to give up and leave the United States and others to not even begin the process. The current long waits �cause a reverse brain drain affecting American competitiveness and innovation,� according to Aman Kapoor, executive director of the group Immigration Voice. �At the same time, these green card backlogs create severe quality of life issues for the applicants and their families.�

    Those who understand markets realize that there is no such thing as a fixed number of jobs, as critics of high skill immigration maintain. A 2008 National Foundation for American Policy (NFAP) study found that for every skilled foreign national requested (for H-1B visas) with the Department of Labor, U.S. technology companies increase their employment by 5 workers. Many U.S. executives confirm this experience at their firms. Looking to America�s next generation of scientists and engineers, a 2004 NFAP study found more than half of the finalists for the Intel Science Talent Search, the leading contest for top U.S. high school science students, were the children of skilled immigrants.

    In addition to the reduced waiting times for green cards from H.R. 5882, Congress can take other steps. It can fix the labor certification process for skilled immigrants under which the U.S. Department of Labor (DOL) requires companies to engage in expensive and time-consuming advertisements to show no qualified Americans are available for certain jobs. Neither the law nor the original DOL regulations required such advertisements. Yet DOL is using its questionable authority to, among other things, audit thousands of green card cases from the nation�s largest immigration law firm, Fragomen, Del Rey, Bernsen & Loewy. The Fragomen firm has filed a lawsuit in U.S. District Court alleging DOL has exceeded its authority. Congressional oversight is warranted.
    Congress can also eliminate the per country limit for skilled immigrants, which pushes back wait times for Indian and Chinese professionals, exempt from green card quotas those who earn a master�s degree or higher, and increase the quotas for H-1B temporary visas.

    While H.R. 5882 will not solve all our immigration problems, it represents an important effort to retain talented individuals in America so they can help create jobs and innovation in the United States.

    Stuart Anderson is a former Staff Director of the Senate Immigration Subcommittee and now Executive Director of the National Foundation for American Policy, a nonpartisan policy research group based in Arlington, Va.

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  • ArunAntonio
    07-09 06:45 PM
    I dont expect USCIS to get all emotional because of our flowers and issue an update to their updated bulletin saying they will now accept and issue green cards.
    The point is that we need to make awareness that there is a HUGE community that gets affected by every move they make and that we are an active and cohesive community and also to create awareness of this debacle.

    Will you guys stop this madness atleast now?. If US started bending rules for people who send flowers, then everyone will try to manipulate the system. There is a lot of difference between the circumstances of originla gandhigiri and now. :rolleyes: That was our country back then, for crying out loud.We are in a foriegn country and the issuance of visa a previlege not a right.Why cant you guys understand this simple fact?. Now stop making fools of yourself and get a life.

    That USCIS director gave a good answer. Is your pain more than those citizens of this country who gave their limbs and life for US?. :eek:

    BTW, i am one of the guys who couldn't file I-485 because of this fiasco. But i understand the reality.:)



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  • trueguy
    08-20 11:49 PM
    Thats exactly what it is... Now folks take a look here. These were the dates before July 2007.
    http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_3236.html
    It will be resonable to assume that these will be the dates in OCT bulletien for Eb3-I.
    Finally, 5882 is our only hope for now.

    On what basis you are saying that Oct'2008 PD will be similar to Jun'2007. Didn't you read the note in Sep'2008 VB that PD for EB3 category will retrogress further.

    If you cann't support EB3 community then at least don't misguide people here. EB3-I is in severe pain right now and people like you can't understand it.





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  • nousername
    03-29 04:53 PM
    My attorney originally applied for my labor (regular process) in late spring 2006 but due to another issue we decided to expedite (premium process) in early winter 2006. Question is, is early spring my PD or early winter of 2066? (Sorry don't have the exact dates in front of me).

    Thanks.



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  • chanduv23
    09-17 01:19 PM
    Not many approvals in the last couple of days :(

    I guess very few pending.





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  • go_guy123
    06-10 03:51 PM
    Thanks guys .... for coming behind me .. Shane Warne or Purple Haze won't satisfy you guys .. Y dont we discuss how Kanimozhi's discontent couldn't play spoil sport for the new govt and how Azhagiri got cornered with chemicals and fertilizers (these 2 are not any interntaional fame for an american 'tunnel rat' to know abt them).

    Above all I am here to get some information to bring a company which violates rules to authorities, nothing more nothing less and not here to do any name calling of mud slinging.

    l1fraud. L1s cannot be hosted at client site when the client site manager has supervision on him/her.

    ICE has a historically poor track record on enforcing H1b/L1 rules. Only lately there has been on enforcement on the H1B rules. All that one can do is complain to USCIS / ICE
    etc but they don't do anything then you may have to talk to you senator/congressman etc. Sometimes senator/congressman are also non cooperative.

    Let alone L1, even B1 visa is used like a short term work permit by many IT companies including American IT companies





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  • walking_dude
    01-11 02:55 PM
    Right. We are already here and working . How will we displace any American worker if we get the Green Card?

    ALIPAC should be renamed to Alibagh !

    How will I displace an American worker if I get a green card sooner? I am already here and already doing a job that DOL certified no other American is willing qualified or able to do!! :D

    This is beyond ridiculous!!

    Guys we need to send in our letters!!





    shx
    06-16 03:24 AM
    I am not supporting any fraud, but what I said is, if you find workplace discrimination and contact a career guide, they ask you to find another job. Most sincere career guides will not support lawsuits or retaliation against employer unless you are not in a position to find other work. Even read career sites for women and advice, even in cases of sexual harrassment, they ask the victim to move on as a sensible thing to do, because in the end the company will somehow make the victim lose her job. There have been 1000s of USC Vs USC cases. I am not supporting any fraud but what I am saying is retaliation leaves bad taste in the mouth and world is a small place. For larger good of your rest of career best thing to do is move on.

    Only some crooked lawyer who wants money will tell you, you are doing the right thing.

    Your arguments seem almost convincing. I will have to agree with you that it might be best for the OP's career to just move on to another job and ignore all the gross violations at his work place. Wouldn't that be selfish though? Who is going to set things right, if everyone cares about his/her own career advancement?

    I think you should advise half of the people to move on to other jobs and the other half to fight the violations. Fair?





    jsb
    09-21 09:11 AM
    I am also July 2nd filer with no checks being cashed yet, and no other activities around my case. What can we do when the waiting period is over 90 days???

    I believe, USCIS has a formal method of investigation. You or your lawyer will have to give details whatever USCIS asks for. In a normal course, this would have been done a lot sooner, but USCIS themselves admit that they are not yet finished with all July2-Aug17 receipts. Perhaps they will not entertain any formal investigations until they are done with all filings.

    I am one of the July2 (J Barret, 10:25am) filers on the waiting, and I know the anxiety we all have. You can write to your Congressman, but think of how USCIS is going to respond to the intervention. They will tell that they are not yet finished with all receipts.



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